Wilmac bandsaw restoration.

[Radio Fixer]

Whoops! double take

Gary

[Radio Fixer]

Yeah! a hate tool for me. Sure would prefer to find some place I could take the parts, pay a charge and let them blast it for me. I just hate clearing up.

Excellent video though, shows how it is.

Do I take it you have already bought it Colin? and not been put off? you being Mr Houseproud. Imagine all that grit stuff on your beautifully painted woodwork.

I would have thought it was possible to make a demountable box, say with an acrylic top and a working hole for access for the blaster. Must catch some of the stuff. But another thing to store.

Its a bit like owning a spray gun for me: I'm going to do this job .... But can I be bothered to get it all out, put it together, get it working, clearing the nozzles, mixing the lacquer, dam! that's gone hard. And then after I gotta clean up all the over spray, clean the gun and put it all away. No! too much pain, so I'll just go and buy a few rattle cans or hand paint it.

If it isn't bought I would try to think un-emotionally about it.

Yeah! I know, I'm a Christmas kill joy for a new Boy's toy.

Gary

[pwdrive]

I also used Halfords spray cans, did the tuning knob of this receiver, pic is a bit fuzzy but in real life the paint job came out ok, the scale graduations are engraved so filling them with paint was no problem.

Lawrence.

Whoops....made a mistake in that post, the tuning knob is the original black bakelite that was polished up, it was the outer tuning scale that I spray painted.

Lawrence.

[Retired]

Hi,

50kg blasting medium should get me off to a start Big Al and who knows; I might end up buying by the pallet whilst dragging a huge compressor and soda sprayer behind an equally huge 4WD which is the way to go in America.

I haven't bought the blaster yet Gary but hopefully will buy one when we visit the manufacturer in Oxenhope tomorrow morning; I've not been put off by watching the videos but I did expect a lot of dust to be created and as you say Gary I like my garage/workshop to be very tidy but if it doesn't snow or pour with rain I plan to do the bandsaw paint removal on the driveway. For the odd job it makes sense Gary to farm the blasting out because to get parts blasted isn't too expensive and saves labour and cleaning up; doing the blasting at home money is involved because a compressor is needed together with the blaster then of course consumables like nozzles and blasting medium but I like owning plenty of kit to play around with and money isn't the problem it used to be to us so I don't mind buying one of these blasters as a toy to play with.

Its possible that trying to spray items isolated in a box might produce a fog inside the box Gary but a good idea though; at work blast cabinets were used so the idea is feasible? I'll see how I get on because once the blaster is here I'll be able to test it in action then I'll know what I'm up against?

I can understand your attitude towards paint spraying Gary and would agree that if spraying isn't a regular job then gathering all the kit and materials is definitely a chore as is masking up and clearing a spray area. Oil based paint like enamels will go hard in the tin over time but I've not had cellulose go hard. I always know where my spray kit is after all I'm very tidy and have a place for everything so my kit is ready for action without much trouble. I'm used to gun cleaning as well; once the job is completed I empty the paint from the gun back into the original container; pour a small quantity of thinner into the gun and blast until the gun runs dry which removes most of the paint. Pour a drop more thinner into the gun and drop in a piece of clean cloth; work the cloth around using a screwdriver to clean the gun cup and also use this wetted cloth to clean the gun exterior; spray once again until the gun runs dry; remove the needle/spring and nozzle assembly drop these into a partially filled jam jar of thinners moving them around using the screwdriver in the thinners then lift them out and wipe dry; re-assemble the gun and I sparingly lubricate the needle with Vaseline but not near the tip. Use the thinners wetted cloth wiping the cup lid clean and job done; it takes about five minutes.

For brush cleaning I use a "Dandy" brush cleaning attachment in the drill so all in all I'm pretty well sorted regarding painting kit but I do ensure everything is as clean as I possibly can get it before putting the kit away; my spray guns are always wrapped in a plastic bag each; my brushes are wrapped in kitchen towel.

You're not a Christmas killjoy at all Gary and I've given a lot of thought whether or not to simply let some else blast the paint from this bandsaw or to go ahead and buy my own blaster. I can safely store the blaster under the bungalow and buying the blaster isn't a problem so all being well I'll be buying one of these soda blasters tomorrow as planned. I wanted to visit the manufacturer to take over a piece of the bandsaw to inquire which blasting medium was best rather than just guess. I'll report back again tomorrow once I have more information to share.

Kind regards, Col.

[AlanBeckett]

... when we visit the manufacturer in Oxenhope tomorrow morning

Oxenhope my life.
You could call in at the Dog and Gun for lunch - http://www.dogandgunoxenhope.co.uk/
We used to go there many moons ago. It's still Timothy Taylor's Beer - http://timothytaylor.co.uk/

Alan

[Radio Fixer]

Colin doesn't drink beer big Al but I could fancy a pint of Timothy Taylors. Don't see it down south and its been a while since we got up into the Yorkshire Wilds.

Colin is it possible that the manufacturer will have a blast cabinet set up so you could get a demo on your own item? Take several items including a small one say.

Enjoy Gary

[Retired]

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion Big Al but Gary is ahead of you; Bron and I never touch alcohol and certainly won't be seen in pubs; yes I'm a miserable so and so but but I get my highs from spending money on nice kit rather than booze. Each to their own though.

Good suggestion Gary and yes indeed I'm taking over part of the bandsaw not necessarily to have a trial blast but to ensure I get the correct medium; if the offer of a demonstration is there though I'll take advantage of it.

Last night I was awake in bed in the early hours thinking about the blaster and it occurred to me that the blaster might prove very useful next year and really justify the outlay; Bron and I have been considering our options regarding replacing the failed double glazing to our bungalow; we can see the benefits in having the lot ripped out and replaced by plastic but we do like our wooden frames. The softwood frames are original being over 50 years old and still in excellent condition due to regular painting. I'm thinking of using the blaster with soda to strip right back to the bare timber and if as expected the timber is still in good condition simply replace the glazing units then make a top class job of re-painting which I've always enjoyed doing once the rubbing down has been completed.

We recently bought top quality "Little Greene Paint" ready for the exterior painting next year and I also bought the expensive Fein multi-tool which will make removing the glazed units very easy so I think next year is already taken care of regarding yet another big job to do?

I've already done the shopping this morning arriving at a heaving Morrison's for 7 o'clock; I shudder to think what the store will be like by dinner time?

I hope your country is going to be kind this morning Big Al because you know only too well what it's like to live at the top of the world; 22 miles from here but if it suddenly snows on top it quickly builds into deep drifts; snow tyres are fitted and snow chains ready under the drivers seat so fingers crossed?

Kind regards, Col.

[Yorkie]

When you've stripped your Wilmac (by whatever means) Colin, I don't know what you've got in mind for a primer, but you might like to consider U-Pol#8 Acid Etch, which comes in 450mL aerosols, so quite a large can. Surprisingly, Halford's stock this primer - not cheap at £12.99, but the list price is £29.00, though I know RRP is meaningless. It's no cheaper on e-bay or Amazon, for which I know you don't have an account.

The u-Pol stall-holder at Rufforth has it for use in spray guns, which may be cheaper, but I've not seen it there in aerosols. (I've had U-Pol 'Wed-Thru' primer from him in aerosol out of curiosity to see if it is conductive and would be useful for screening to repair metalising on valves. (The answer is 'no', on both counts).

U-Pol #8 Acid Etch is excellent of course for bare radio chassis preparation, especially aluminium.

Hope that's of interest, and that your trip to the Soda stripping place is a positive experience.

[Radio Fixer]

Well I'm a window frame painter as well Colin but now I have to think ahead. As I get older I wont want to climb scaffolding and ladders this being a house; don't want to do it now really but did last year.

So I know you are a younger chap but time marches on ... If you wont go plastic I thought your idea of making new hardwood frames was better than sticking with the softwood. Far easier to do a varnish like Sickens etc when you get some more years down the track. And I reckon you would really enjoy making the frames now you are set up ...
Also you could make the new frames and have them ready as you take the old ones out so less time in the weather ...

Would the softwood frames stand being blasted? Might tear them to bits. Also don't forget modern dbl glazed panels are 22 mm thick so would they accommodate that?

Anyway, have fun at the stripping place

Gary

[Radio Fixer]

Like the sound of that primer David. Ali is always difficult ...

Gary