08-03-2013, 07:03 PM
Hi,
Thanks for asking Gary and a very good question as to veneering such large doors using hot hide glue; yes I believe it could be done but I would highly recommend getting used to the technique of hammer veneering first on smaller panels. As these doors are already veneered would it be possible to completely strip the original finish using chemical stripper then bleach the veneer to lighten the colour?
I can see two major problems up front in trying to veneer these doors over the original veneer; firstly it isn't wise to lay one veneer on top of another veneer with the grain running in the same direction as this can cause cracks at a later date when everything dries out. secondly a lot of space will be required.
Working time using hot hide glue isn't a problem Gary in fact it can be carried out very slowly; even if hide glue dries out during lay up it can quickly be softened at any time with the application of a wet rag and hot iron; when I did my first hide glue veneering job I was working in a state of panic trying to get the veneer down before the glue gelled; now I take my time but even doors of his size should be easy enough to veneer using the hammer method; as I say Gary I've never tried the PVA method but it's likely this too would work.
Many years ago Gary I wood grained the bow window frame and wood surround in our first house and it actually looked good I used Scumble. Here's a modern version which is very interesting with a lovely finished effect;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAiv9S4w2Po
Obviously this is not veneering but might appeal to Colin as it will work out much cheaper than veneering this size of door.
As you are interested in having a go at veneering Colin then perhaps it would help if you had something in mind you wish to veneer once you've had a bit of practice then work towards this? Just veneering a set of large doors for the practice will prove costly?
Once the basic technique is grasped then larger veneering jobs should be quite easy and this leads to trying other techniques such as cross banding and stringing going on to inlays. I'm currently interested in inlay motifs but as the weather is so dire I simply don't feel like going into the workshop.
The world of finishes is huge and a subject in its own right.
Kind regards, Col.
Thanks for asking Gary and a very good question as to veneering such large doors using hot hide glue; yes I believe it could be done but I would highly recommend getting used to the technique of hammer veneering first on smaller panels. As these doors are already veneered would it be possible to completely strip the original finish using chemical stripper then bleach the veneer to lighten the colour?
I can see two major problems up front in trying to veneer these doors over the original veneer; firstly it isn't wise to lay one veneer on top of another veneer with the grain running in the same direction as this can cause cracks at a later date when everything dries out. secondly a lot of space will be required.
Working time using hot hide glue isn't a problem Gary in fact it can be carried out very slowly; even if hide glue dries out during lay up it can quickly be softened at any time with the application of a wet rag and hot iron; when I did my first hide glue veneering job I was working in a state of panic trying to get the veneer down before the glue gelled; now I take my time but even doors of his size should be easy enough to veneer using the hammer method; as I say Gary I've never tried the PVA method but it's likely this too would work.
Many years ago Gary I wood grained the bow window frame and wood surround in our first house and it actually looked good I used Scumble. Here's a modern version which is very interesting with a lovely finished effect;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAiv9S4w2Po
Obviously this is not veneering but might appeal to Colin as it will work out much cheaper than veneering this size of door.
As you are interested in having a go at veneering Colin then perhaps it would help if you had something in mind you wish to veneer once you've had a bit of practice then work towards this? Just veneering a set of large doors for the practice will prove costly?
Once the basic technique is grasped then larger veneering jobs should be quite easy and this leads to trying other techniques such as cross banding and stringing going on to inlays. I'm currently interested in inlay motifs but as the weather is so dire I simply don't feel like going into the workshop.
The world of finishes is huge and a subject in its own right.
Kind regards, Col.
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